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Reply
from Geoff Irwin Fax 15th November 2006
Dear
MsC..
RESTRICTED DOG
KEPT
Thank
you for your letter dated the 9th November 2006 relating to the
above matter.
Council
does not deem the original assessment invalid. The re assessment was
offered to you in response to your request to have the matter reviewed.
Council
advises that the re-assessment of your dog “Tyra” will be conducted by
a veterinarian, using a method considered satisfactory to that
veterinarian. Please be advised that the Local Government Act 1993 section
1193ZZP provides that.
A
certificate purporting to be signed by a veterinarian surgeon stating, or
to the effect, the dog is of a breed or type mentioned in section 1193)1)
evidence that the dog is a restricted dog.
The
re assessment will be conducted at a time and date suitable to you. As it
may not be possible to arrange the re assessment prior to the expiry dates
of your current permit.
Council
will grant an extension until the 24th November 2006. It is
imperative that the re assessment is completed prior to the due date.
If
it is more convenient Council will be happy to conduct this re assessment
at the animal Welfare league facility, shelter Coombabah . Please note
that at no time during the re assessment will you be required to leave
your dog unattended and you are welcome to observe the procedure.
Should
you have any further queries in relation to this matter please contact the
Teem leader Animal Management (investigations pest species on 07-5581
7647.
Geoff
Irwin.
Acting
Coordinator Animal Management
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LETTER TO
JASON TYRER
To
Jason Tyrer
Team
Leader Animal Management
(Investigation
& Pest Species)
Please
make copies for:
Dale
Dickson
CEO
Gold Coast City Council
Colette
McCool
Director
Community Services
To
the Law firm directed to give the Gold Coast City Council advice on this
matter.
28th
December 2006
Dear
Sir / Madam
Gold
Coast City Council, Local Government Act 1993 Chapter 17A Section 1193ZR.
Proposed Restricted Dog
Declaration Notice
To
whom this may concern.
In
response to the “TAKE FURTHER NOTICE that you (Christina) may within
(14) days of the date of this notice make written representation showing
cause why Council should not proceed in declaring your dog (Tyra) a
restricted dog.”
Your
representation can include written opinion from a veterinary surgeon or
other evidence about the dog’s breed or type.
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My dog
Tyra is a Rhodesian Ridgeback Terrier cross. Had the two ACO’s
bothered to conduct the assessment by wakening my dog up or by
physically examining her back they would have seen she carries the
ridge down her back only common for one breed of dog known as the
Rhodesian Ridgeback. Read Document D106.
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How
can my dog Tyra, having a Rhodesian Ridgeback as one of her parents,
then substantially comply to the breed standards from the 22 point
checklist as Tyra must be
50 per cent Rhodesian Ridgeback. Since the cut off for prohibited
breeds is 70 per cent, logical deduction means the score of 48 and 49
out of 66 (70%) could not be achieved therefore casting doubt on the
(22 point checklist) assessment. Read Document D117.
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If you can
grow a ridge down the back of a dog by not crossing a Rhodesian
Ridgeback then please inform me as many in the dog world would find
this very interesting.
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The
identification tool was developed by Ms Pomeroy, a self taught expert,
using a theory she made up herself, who could not find anyone else in
the world who would validate or support it, sat on a sub-committee,
put together by a group called SEQROC, who hold no appointment by any
government department, invented a document called the 22 point
checklist, to identify a suspected dog as an American pit bull
terrier, then used this tool to justify and take peoples property and
convince the courts they were all experts, then went about training
other animal control officers how
to do the same. Play DISC Review of Dino Da Fre Case, Page 88, 1st
March 2006, line 24.
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The ACO
who conducted this sham, on the 25th of August 2003, were
Lester Soloai ACO 47 and Mark Pavey ACO 30. These officers were
trained by Selina Neill, who was the GCCC’s Education and Public
Awareness Officer training the Breed identification course during
2003. Read Document D104 and D105.
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5th
November 2004, Taylor Vs GCCC, Magistrate Batts declared Selina Neill
not an expert in Breed Identification and all other animal control
officers trained similarly also not experts in Breed identification,
therefore making their identification invalid from this date
regardless. Play DISC Transcripts Justin Taylor Case, Page 45 to 49.
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To offer
me the use of a veterinarian, Dr Jacqueline Perkins, to conduct an
independent assessment of my dog Tyra, after spending 6 days in the
court room Dino Da Fre Vs Logan City Council, two of these days
listening to the attempts of Dr Jacqueline Perkins to mislead and make
up fantasy remarks in court, then be told by the Magistrate Cornack
“Dr Perkins only road to specialisation is about animal behaviour
and it’s her opinion that animal behaviour is the closest thing to
breed ID. Now, that is not an area that she can really give evidence
about. That is her opinion but she’s not an expert to give that
opinion. And she is not a fellow yet, so it’s irrelevant. Play DISC
Review of Dino Da Fre Case, Page 605
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“there’s
no way anyone in Australia can get specialisation in breed
identification at this stage. If there was, the council wouldn’t be
thinking up 22 point plans they just ship off their people down there
to get their –diploma or certificate in breed ID and things would be
a lot happier, that’s as I understand Dr Perkins. It is her opinion
that that is the closest thing to breed identification. Breed
identification is part of veterinary work for some purposes and a
part- oh, animal behaviourists probably use it for some purposes as
well. But she certainly is not going to be a specialist in breed
identification”. Play DISC Review of Dino Da Fre Case, bottom
of the Page 605.
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Then
watch Dr Perkins make a complete fool out of herself, in
the same trial by her own admission while sworn under oath,
discrediting the 22 point checklist and herself by changing it at will
to suit the needs to perform a TV identification of a dog called
Peggy, now able to use the 17 point checklist and her special ability
of the bifocal three dimensional vision to assess three dimensional
images from a two dimensional screen? Play DISC Review of Dino
Da Fre Case, Day
6_210606.pdfHalfway down page 590.
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To give me
this offer was both clearly ridiculous and insulting.
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The
identification made by Mr Gary Blain is the only one brought forward
that holds any possible resemblance of common sense and logic attached
to it, so I tender it and him as a more reliable and credible expert
witness than any other you have brought forward. Read Document D106.
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As for my
ability to contest this in a magistrates court and to put together a
similar defence as that of the Dino Da Fre Vs Logan City Council. I
have been assisting the case Morris Vs GCCC, Mr John Mokomoko, in
preparing the experts for the Supreme Court and have been informed
they would make themselves available for a warm up run to assist me
should I need assistance.
As
this letter and following content will be forwarded to the law firm
advising the Gold Coast City Council, should you require any further
information or any offers to settle this case outside the court please
contact Mr John Mokomoko, C/o Aegis Protection Services Pty Ltd, PO Box
156 LABRADOR or phone 0421 326 408 and he would be more than happy to
discuss any arrangements.
As
for the news and television reporting this case throughout Qld, I will
wait until you have formalized you decision.
Thank
you
Christina
Ashmore.
Qld
4214
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A copy of
this has been forwarded to Ms Donna Roberts, Local Government
Collaboration of department of Local Government, Planning, Sport and
Recreation as per her instruction.
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To the
Ombudsman’s Office C/o David Barakin.
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LETTER TO
GEOFF IRWIN
Christina
Ashmore
4214
QLD
February
8, 2007.
Dear
Mr. Irwin,
Thank you for
your response regarding Proposed Restricted Dog Declaration on the 7th
Feb 2007.
“To
not avail yourself of the opportunity of having “Tyra” reassessed will
effectively be denying yourself of the opportunity to present evidence as
to why a Restricted Dog Declaration should not be made.
The request herein is being made in the utmost good faith and so as to
assure you of due process and Natural Justice.”
I
reject your proposal to have Tyra reassessed by the Gold Coast Council’s
Authorized Officers.
Officers are not qualified nor do they have any accreditation to go around
identifying innocent dogs. The 22 point checklist was exposed in a Court
of Law as having no scientific or other technical basis at all.
The identification tool to be used by your Authorized Officers of Council,
(the 22 point checklist) was developed by Ms Pomeroy, a self taught
expert, using a theory she made up herself and could not find anyone else
in the world who would validate or support it.
(stated by herself Page 88, 1st
March 2006, line 24. Stephen Fynes-Clinton, Barrister Questioning. “All
right. So, you simply assert
from the witness box that you can look at a cross bred dog and your
experience allows you to identify it’s breed components by looking at it
and that that’s got a level of scientifics - a-- a level of reliable
certainty to it?---It’s evidence---what I’m giving is evidence to
assist the Court. I have never once claimed that it’s scientific. I’m
claiming it’s the best we’ve got.
It’s---the evidence I’m giving is, in my opinion, as honest as
I can give it and I’m not suggesting it’s scientific but it is ---all
I can give you is evidence. I can give you the ---the --- we use breed
standards and its not scientific, its evidence.
But you’re claiming that it’s reliable, aren’t you?--- I do believe
it is reliable---- To what ---?--- in my opinion I believe it’s
reliable. Maybe I can’t explain that to you well enough, but I’ve been
using it for a long time and I do believe it’s reliable----You---?-----
that’s my personal opinion.
The difficulty we have is that you’re here as an expert witness?)
Ms
Pomeroy sat on a sub-committee, put together by a group called SEQROC, who
hold no appointment by any government department, invented a document
called the 22 point checklist, to identify a suspected dog as an American
pit bull terrier, then used this tool to justify and take people’s
property and convince the courts they were all experts, then went about
training other animal control officers how to do the same.
Tyra was assessed by dog expert, Mr. Gary Blain, with the highest
accreditation in the Commonwealth on the request of David Barakin the Qld
Ombudsman.
The most important outcome of Mr. Gary Blain’s assessment, which clearly
cannot be disputed, is that Tyra is a Rhodesian Ridgeback cross:
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My
dog Tyra is a Rhodesian Ridgeback Terrier cross. Had the two ACO’s
bothered to conduct the assessment by awakening my dog or by
physically examining her back, they would have seen that she carries
the ridge down her back only common for one breed of dog known as the
Rhodesian Ridgeback.
-
How
can my dog Tyra, having a Rhodesian Ridgeback as one of her parents,
then substantially comply to the breed standards from the 22 point
checklist as Tyra must be
50 per cent Rhodesian Ridgeback. Since the cut off for prohibited
breeds is 70 per cent, logical deduction means the score of 48 and 49
out of 66 (70%) could not be achieved therefore casting doubt on the
(22 point checklist) assessment.
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If
you can grow a ridge down the back of a dog by not crossing a
Rhodesian Ridgeback then please inform me as many in the dog world
would find this very interesting.
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This
alone proves that the 22 point checklist is clearly inaccurate and
false.
Tyra
was assessed by Lester Soloai and Mark Pavey on the 25-8-2003, the first
assessment your department lost, then again on the 27-9-2003 by Lester
Soloai. Explain to me as to why my dog Tyra has to be reassessed for what
will be the fourth and fifth time. What was wrong with the first two
assessments, have they been deemed invalid? I have attached the photos
with the date and time they conducted their assessments, photos show the
position Tyra was in when the assessments were carried out.
I
want a decent explanation.
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The
ACO’s who conducted this sham, on the 25th of August
2003, were Lester Soloai ACO 47 and Mark Pavey ACO 30. These officers
were trained by Selina Neill, who was the GCCC’s Education and
Public Awareness Officer training the breed identification course
during 2003.
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5th
November 2004, Taylor Vs GCCC, Magistrate Batts declared Selina Neill
not an expert in Breed Identification and all other animal control
officers trained similarly also not experts in Breed identification,
therefore making their identification invalid from this date
regardless.
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Your
previous offer to me of the use of a veterinarian, Dr Jacqueline
Perkins, to conduct an assessment of my dog Tyra, after spending 6
days in the court room Dino Da Fre Vs Logan City Council, two of these
days listening to the attempts of Dr Jacqueline Perkins to mislead and
make up fantasy remarks in court, then be told by the Magistrate
Cornack, “Dr Perkins only road
to specialization is about animal behavior and it’s her opinion that
animal behavior is the closest thing to breed ID. Now, that is not an
area that she can really give evidence about. That is her opinion but
she’s not an expert to give that opinion. And she is not a fellow
yet, so it’s irrelevant, “there’s no way anyone in Australia can
get specialization in breed identification at this stage. If there
was, the council wouldn’t be thinking up 22 point plans they just
ship off their people down there to get their –diploma or
certificate in breed ID and things would be a lot happier, that’s as
I understand Dr Perkins. It is her opinion that that is the closest
thing to breed identification. Breed identification is part of
veterinary work for some purposes and a part- oh, animal behaviorists
probably use it for some purposes as well. But she certainly is not
going to be a specialist in breed identification”
Mr.
Irwin, you have not responded to my letter in a dignified way, you have
answered nothing regarding my questions. Jason Tyrer couldn’t respond
either saying it was sent to the Legal Section of the GCCC. Please at
least have the decency to respond to my letter in a dignified way; your
job is to serve the public. Your letter sent on the 7th Feb
2007 clarifies nothing but bullying tactics again.
Tyra has been my therapeutic therapy for 11 years due to my illness, and
my mothers now for the last 8 months, she is my mother’s backbone, she
keeps her alive.
“To
not avail yourself of the opportunity of having “Tyra” reassessed will
effectively be denying yourself of the opportunity to present evidence as
to why a Restricted Dog Declaration should not be made.
The
identification made by Mr. Gary Blain is the only one brought forward that
holds any possible resemblance of common sense and logic attached to it,
so I tender it and him as a more reliable and credible expert witness than
any other you have brought forward
The request herein is being made in the utmost good
faith and so assure you of due process and natural Justice.”
Your need to have Tyra re-assessed is in no way my best interest, having
nothing at all to do with Natural Justice or due process, but only an
attempt to allow you to obtain some resemblance of credible evidence to
proceed with in court.
“You
assert you must prove”
I
will fight this in Court and will also be contacting the media. I have had
enough.
Christina
"It
is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends
upon his not understanding it"
Upton
Beall Sinclair, 1878–1968
“The
nine most terrifying words in the English language are, ‘I’m from the
government and I’m here to help.”’
Ronald
Reagan
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And
the certificate of non restricted dog breed?
Dear
Jason Tyrer
Team Leader Animal Management (Investigations and Pest Species)
Animal Control.
Gold Coast City Council.
28th of February 2007.
Dear Jason
After reviewing the correspondence dated 20th February 2007, Ref.No.
PN42580/16(P1) I feel there are several matters that still need
clarification and other points that still have not been addressed and in
the interest of finalizing this whole matter, it is better to put all the
points on the table so as to find closure for Mrs C.
The letter:
1. In making this decision Council had regard to the following
information:
a) The original assessment carried out by Council officers in 2003 using
the 22 point checklist.• Please elaborate; were the officers found to be
badly or poorly trained?
• Had the person who trained these officers also been badly or poorly
trained?
• Was this standard of assessment at that time deemed to be acceptable?
• Are you ready to concede that the 22 point checklist is, as Mrs. C and
myself have been saying and proving over and over again, a totally
misleading document holding no validity at all?
• Are you prepared to take the advice of the QLGA and the advice from
Kings & Co Solicitors regarding their interpretation of the outcome of
the Dino Da Fre Vs Logan City Councils court case and the use of the 22
point checklist in any future court trials?
Evidence provided by you by way of photographs and comments indicating
doubt about some points in the 2003 assessment.
• Please elaborate; As you first dismissed Gary Blain (permission was
given to enable other dog owners to use his expertise) as having no
qualifications, not an expert regarding dogs, I had to go to great lengths
to prove you were wrong. The Neville Brown Vs GCCC, if you recall it was
Gary Blains experts advise and evidence that was the main reason this case
went Mr. Browns way and he was given back his dogs.
• After a few challenges regarding his qualifications you say you are
now willing to accept his report and findings based on what new
information?
c) As the dog was not made available for re-assessment the only avenue
remaining for Council to perform an assessment to substantiate your claim
would have been to obtain a warrant and seize the dog. Council was not
prepared to take such serious action in this case.
• This dog was made available under the condition that you validate the
qualifications of either the ACO conducting the test or the Vet and the
document they would be using. We both know you could not do this, as
through exhausted court cases Qld councils have no admissible evidence
once again supported by QLGA and the advice from Kings & Co
Solicitors.
• To obtain a warrant would have taken an hour of your time, due to the
fact that the two females who were in possession of the dog Tyra, one
suffering from Dementia and around 80 years old and the other having to
rely on a walking stick with numerous medical problems, I do not see that
you would have needed a small army to obtain this dog. However once you
had seized this dog what would you have done with it? We both know you
could do nothing.
Council has reviewed the assessment and based on the opinion of a
qualified and trained officer
• You must be joking, or are delusional, do you think just because you
write something on a Gold Coast City Council Letterhead it magically
becomes the truth?
• The only way this statement can become true is if you have employed an
ACO with qualifications so new with world ground breaking technology that
no one else has. I think not.
• Who is this qualified and trained officer, what are his or her
qualifications, we both know this statement is simply untrue.
• If and when this goes back to court, I will enjoy watching your
attempts to validate this statement
• I will put this as simply as I can: There is no ACO in Qld that has
the necessary qualifications to perform Breed Identification with or
without the use of the 22 point checklist that will stand up in court.
Please contact your QLGA or Kings & Co Solicitor’s as you will never
believe me publicly but you have no other choice but to take the advice of
your own legal council.
Therefore, your dog was afforded the benefit of the doubt and the decision
was made
• Benefit of the doubt: definition: A favorable judgment granted in the
absence of full evidence. In a case where some doubt remains: to assume
that they are telling the truth, or are innocent, because there is not
enough evidence to be certain that they are not.
• It has taken Mrs. C since the 03/05/2000 till contacting me on the 3rd
of October 2006 then to date to prove what she has indicated all along
that her dog Tyra was not a Pit bull terrier.
• I have supplied a mountain of factual evidence, proof that has stood
up in court and now has been acknowledged by your own legal representative
law firm as unshakeable in any court, in other words a judgment or
decision, based on full irrefutable evidence would be a more correct term.
• You know you cannot prove beyond reasonable doubt, in fact at all,
that Tyra is what you say she is.
• If you were to try and we set up the same defense as the Dino Da Fre
case you would be found to be acting with Malfeasance, subjecting you
yourself, your head of department and the members of the GCCC to civil law
suits which you would lose.
• Show me what doubt you have if you can and I would be more than happy
to prove you wrong in court.
Council has adjusted its registration records
• Mrs. C has been subjected to paying restricted dog registration fees
from 2003, this has been clearly proven as being wrong and the error was
fully councils fault. The GCCC now has an obligation to reimburse Mrs. C
the balance, less the normal dog registration fees, Mrs. C is a pensioner
which also must come into account.
The CERTIFICATE OF NON PRHIBITED BREED?
1) What qualifies you, Jason Tyrer (as I only have a signature to go by),
to be able to give out dog breed certificates?
2) Has this been approved by the GCCC?
3) The document is not numbered, one would believe that this was made up
on your computer in a hope that this would act as payment for the 3 and a
half years of harassment pain and suffering.
4) I have sent this to several councils and shires throughout Qld asking
if anyone has seen one of these or would accept this as proof, the reply
after laughing was no.
5) Has this document even been seen by anyone from the state government,
let alone approved, no!
6) A little more effort would have included:
• A better photo of the dog other than of Tyra sleeping.
• The document should be numbered.
• The dogs Micro chip number for better identification should also be
included for a positive identification.
• The comical lettering may be funny to you but is rather insulting to
the dog owner, but then you probably think you have gotten away with this
and do think it is funny.
• No VTEC or NTA approval.
To put it simply this document is not worth the paper it is written on[i].
I await your reply to this letter as this is only a letter of intent to
enable you the GCCC to be able to afford the opportunity to settle this
matter without further litigation and cost, I’m hoping you stay true to
character and litigate.
It is the duty of the Council to fairly inform the Court about both sides
of an issue when it is seeking to exercise statutory powers against an
individual who may not be able to properly represent him or her self.
This is the principle of the "duties of a model litigant" which
apply to all levels of government in legal enforcement proceedings (as
distinct from ordinary civil disputes where the general law applies and
the Council has no special advantage, and hence no special duty).
The duty, which applies to local governments as well as State and Federal,
is referred to in 100 years worth of case law and quite clearly
identified, as an example, in Cantarella Pty Ltd v Egg Marketing Board
(NSW) [1973] 2 NSWLR 366 at 383–4 as follows:-
“The duty of the executive branch of government is to ascertain the law
and obey it. If there is any difficulty in ascertaining what the law is,
as applicable to the particular case, it is open to the executive to
approach the court, or afford the citizen the opportunity of approaching
the court, to clarify the matter. Where the matter is before the court it
is the duty of the executive to assist the court to arrive at the proper
and just result.”
A Council acts improperly at law if it conceals relevant information from
the Court which would not help its case, and which might adversely affect
a proper and just outcome, when it knows of that information, and knows
that the affected citizen is not adequately able to present it. The duty
has less significance when the individual is competently represented and
sufficiently resourced, but how often does that happen in SEQ?
Jon
Mokomoko.
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